This is the unofficial FAQs of #YES4G: Chapter 1 – Service

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Chapter 2 – Pricing & Rebate
Chapter 3 – Devices

UPDATE: Is Bit Torrent Blocked on YES4G? Answer is at below. Check it out!

I went to the YES4G Launch this… evening. Ya it start at 4pm. If you are wondering why the time so weird? Because they did it in London too! (I found out when i was there. Ooo thats why…)
Sadly, i dont have any camera, so no photos.

I figured out the info they give is not the whole story, and they got no FAQ on their site, and their site is now either facing slow loading or down (Congrats YTL, Good job! — do you know there is a thing called cloud?) Let me tell you the story that you want to know.

This is the unofficial FAQs of YES4G compiled by joshuatly!

Chapter 1: Service

1. Whats the speed of the service.

YES says: 3 to 5 times faster than 3G.
I says: This answer is bull shit! Let me tell you whats the 3G rate supposed to be: a minimum data rate of 2 Mbit/s for stationary or walking users, and 384 kbit/s in a moving vehicle (according to Cellular Standards for the Third Generation) which means minimum data rate 10mbps? Well, from what i find out, its not true at all.
RUMOR: From what i overheard is the data rate can range from 3mbps to 10mbps depending on the signal coverage.

TRUTH: They are comparing with Malaysia local 3G service provider’s speed, which is REALLY REALLY REALLY…. bad. 3 times to 5 times of that, that can range from like 3kbps to 10mbps. They will never give an actual minimum rate, (so smart so you never get to complain to MCMC).
From what i tested out today at Lot 10, their flagship store: Result is as below:
(Tweet) #yes4g speedtest 4.87mbps download and 1.3mbps upload (Tested on speedtest.net, connection to local malaysia server, device tested is individual device a Go dongle connected to only one PC)
(Tweet) #yes4g speedtest 4.87mbps download and 1.3mbps upload (Tested on speedtest.net, connection to US server, device tested is individual device a Go dongle connected to a PC)
(Tweet) #yes4g connection to china is very very bad. Ping 1075ms. Download 0.88mbps upload 0.08 swt (Tested on speedtest.net, connection to China server, device tested is individual device a Go dongle connected to a PC)
I saw a speedtest on their own YTL website reach up to 10mbps, well, first thought tell me its fake, but i got no comment on it. Although sometimes i didnt trust speedtest.net result too.
Ping of the YES4G from what i see can be range from 10ms to 200ms to local server, not bad for a wireless broadband service.

(What else you want to know regarding speed, ask in the comment section, i can tell from a user’s perspective although im not really subscribed to the service. or i rephrase, i can tell my 1st impression about the service.)

2. Is YES4G really 4G?

Yes says: Yes of cos it is. You can know by reading the name.
I says: This answer is bull shit! Till now they are using Wimax technology, and the matter of fact is, WIMAX is NOT 4G! LTE is 4G. Read this: http://www.suresh.my/2010/04/wimax-is-not-4g-why-its-abused/. Report showed they are planning to switch to the real 4G (LTE technology) later, which is good for all of us.

Well, engadget also tell that what the ITU says about 4G standards.
(Well there is debate about this part. so i will let you decide. i dont tell the truth, i tell what i think i know. Read comment)

3. Coverage of YES4G

Yes says: Our service cover 60% of the population in malaysia.
I says: NOTE: 60% of population in malaysia does not equal of 60% places of Malaysia.
Truth: Check is your place covered here, Other than KL, some places that (might) have coverage are: North South Highway, ERL, Penang, Johor, Kuantan and some major highway. They claim will increase coverage to 75% of population in Malaysia in the coming year.

4. Will the free 300MB for university expands from public university to private university?

Yes says: Yes, we will approach them.
I says: Go ahead and offer that everywhere so you can get RM30 per month from everyone. Smart move. (Refer to this post: Reasons to Say (Yes/No) to #Yes4g)

5. Mobile Number Portability (MNP). Possible or not?

Yes says: Yes, Possible.
I says: I wonder why they didnt state this anywhere else. 😀 And the truth is i didnt try, and by the way, mind you the phone is not out yet. More about the phone please read chapter 3 where i will write about device. (And after you read you might want to reconsider MNP :P) But technically, its possible.

6. Is my internet being throttled (BitTorrent P2P Skype etc)

Yes says: No. Your internet is not being throttled in any way.
I says: I checked the terms of service, yes, they doesnt say they will throttled your service. Is this too good to be true? Well i cant tell since i got no chance to do a full review of the service. Well i believe and hope YES4G will keep their promise for not throttle any protocol in anyway.

And if YES4G You guys are reading this, im more than willing to do a full review for you guys provided you guys give me to use your service for free for a certain period. Like that time P1 gave bloggers to use for 6 months for free and want them to review their service. Im more than happy to do the same thing to YES4G too! 😀 (And who know later i might become your customer?!?)

Next Chapter: Pricing. Lets find out if YES, We Have The Lowest Rate (they claimed)
Lets see if thats true 😀

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Please give feedback, have more questions, please ask, i will try to find it out 😀
And please note that im not paid to write all of these things. Im telling from a perspective of an end-user. And since im not using the service myself, things i tell from my first impression hands on which i got from Lot-10 flagship shop launch.

joshuatly2010

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18 Responses to This is the unofficial FAQs of #YES4G: Chapter 1 – Service

  1. Pradeesh November 20, 2010 at 4:01 pm #

    awesome man. Its a must read !

  2. Vernon November 20, 2010 at 4:41 pm #

    There are two approved technologies recognized by the ITU-R just last month. #1 LTE-Advanced
    #2 WiMAX 2

    Dont expect any implementation at any time soon.

    Maxis tested LTE since July. Not 4G either, officially.

    • joshuatly November 20, 2010 at 5:02 pm #

      Thanks for the info. Well, in terms of technology, i think, wimax (current wimax) is too far from next gen technology esp LTE. Well, we will wait and see 😀
      Thanks for the comment.

  3. mr.tlchen November 20, 2010 at 6:17 pm #

    BRAVO bro!!!

  4. Chorwin November 20, 2010 at 7:25 pm #

    Okay la, at least as a consumer, we got alternative choice, instead of only the big 4. don’t expect everything perfect from first day. Anyway, we will see how it evolve in future, hopefully they could success like Japan Docomo.
    You see P1, after so many years, the coverage not much improve, and alway think way to find new investor to inject new fund only.

  5. p4n6 November 20, 2010 at 10:18 pm #

    To clarify your point, both wimax 16e and LTE are not 4G. The 4G technology is wimax 16m and lte-advanced.

    A lot of people confused LTE with LTE-Advanced and WiMAX 16e with WiMAX 16m.

    • joshuatly November 21, 2010 at 12:55 am #

      OK Thanks for the clarification.

  6. whoisyes November 20, 2010 at 11:13 pm #

    Aih, Malaysians really like to be armchair experts. You say “LTE is 4G.” and “i think, wimax (current wimax) is too far from next gen technology esp LTE”. I’ll assume you didn’t take an E&E degree, since you’re so sure about the wrong things.

    WiMAX started in 2001, LTE in started in 2004. Too far from next gen technology? Technically, that is incorrect. Everyone reads a lot that LTE is better, but that’s just the telco’s putting up a lot of articles because LTE is a GSM standard, and they are much more comfortable working with GSM-based technologies so they support LTE. That’s why you see new companies use WiMAX, telcos choose LTE. And bear in mind WiMAX implementation cost is cheaper.

    Don’t believe all the marketing and industry hype, dude. If we just compare technology to technology, we have to do it at that level. It’s like Malaysians saying unleaded petrol is clean, when actually in Europe many people use diesel & European diesel cars are 20 to 40& more fuel-efficient and cleaner than unleaded fuel. (read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/17/business/energy-environment/17DIESEL.html) Get what I mean?

    LTE and WiMAX are similar technologies. And to put it in perspective for you, MCMC is only going to release LTE spectrum in 2013, you’ll have to wait another year or two before anyone implements it with enough coverage. By 2013, YTL will probably already roll out WiMAX2 (which is real 4G) to their 2,500 base stations since WiMAX2 don’t need new hardware. How about Digi, Maxis, Celcom? Slowly wait a few years for their LTE-advanced to be up loh, and even then you only get around 20% coverage like what 3G is now in Malaysia.

    I base opinions on facts, not what “I think”. ITU standardization read here: http://edu.tta.or.kr/sub3/down.php?No=68&file=1-1_Status_Standardization_IMT-Advanced_and_byond20100910_R3.pdf

    WiMAX & LTE history read here: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/WiMax-Part1.html

    • joshuatly November 21, 2010 at 12:53 am #

      OK Sorry i might had gave wrong info. Im correcting that. Thanks for the info. Im still learning btw.

      • whoisyes November 21, 2010 at 1:34 am #

        No worries dude. But that’s the world of blogs, ordinary people writing things, without journalistic ethics and standards. Problem is, what blogs write is taken as true. Its ok if you write about your life or whatever, but when you write with perceived authority on something you should be based on fact. Other countries ppl can sue you for misinformation, Malaysian always bitch & complain about being fair n shit but when push comes to shove most are hypocrites. Very few malaysian bloggers take responsibility for what they write. Kudos to you for not censoring my comments, I know some well known local blogs do.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standards

        I see many blogs write about this YTL Yes, and YES their launch is really a bloody disaster and ppl should get fired, but suddenly appear many ‘4G technology expert’ that mislead general public. As a technical-based person I just tulan that’s all.

        Anyway good job revealing all the shit about YTL Yes. Without dirt digging all the dirty laundry will be hidden. More eyes, better, just hope the finger that type what the eye see is correct haha.

  7. shukor November 21, 2010 at 1:06 am #

    LoL… My concern is, when they want to start a real price war… I LOVE PRICE WAR…

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